The making of Trouw, a marathon interview

Michiel checking out Kode9 at De Verdieping (foto: René Passet)
Tonight De Verdieping will celebrate Trouw, the recently opened club and restaurant on the now officially hip Wibautstraat in Amsterdam, by organising an intimate marathon interview with almost all the main characters of the project- Olaf Boswijk, Maike Vernooij, Jaymz Pool, Bas van Tol, Meeus van Dis, and many more. Presentation is by Non-fiction’s Michiel van Iersel and Juha van ‘t Zelfde. Entrance is free, and doors open at 8.30 PM. Why don’t you come by for a drink and a listen? We look forward to seeing you there.
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Sonia Arruda – Thank you so much for the beautiful priutces and the wonderful memories you and Jaymz were able to capture for us on that day!We had a blast! Wish we could re-live that day again and again!! September 13, 2011 11:05 am
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Thanks for your post Maja!Freedom, as I understand it, has conventionally been conceived of by liberals as the starting point: one is free to do what one likes, unless the exercise of that freedom (substantially) harms the interests of others around them. This fairly empty stricture is something most of us can agree upon (although, see ethics-of-care theorists, some might consider this a rather meager idea of morality), but the big question has always been, who or what counts as having interests that might stand in the way of our freedom? The answer to this question can, I think, be found by reference to the power relations in a given society – the socially powerless are often fair game; their interests are generally considered less important and easily sacrificed to the exercise of others’ freedoms.Applied to this case, it seems that according to Richard de Mos and his ilk, animals are simply not considered to be subjects with interests we should concern ourselves with. If you agree with this, then his statement makes perfect sense. Why restrict an activity that doesn’t harm anyone (important)? If, however, you see animals as subjects with interests, his statement comes to look like an exercise of power, cloaked in the ever convenient language of rights. As you noted, “freedom” is a word with a great ring to it. Who can stand in the way of freedom? In some instances, the reference to freedom becomes a rhetorical device to disguise the harm done to others.
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